Rail Mounts
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Rail Mounts
Please post all rail mounting systems for mounting rail scopes to NON Blaser firearms. Pictures would be nice.
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Re: Rail Mounts
Do you mean like this one?
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Re: Rail Mounts
Plenty of pics here http://www.recknagel.de/Joomla/en/catalogues.html
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Re: Rail Mounts
Dear Gang,
I suspect that Ron was kind enough to start this thread on my behalf as I'd recently queried him about solutions for mounting railed scopes on non-Blaser guns.
Most of our bolt-action guns are Blaser R8s, but we also have some Weatherby, Sako and AR-15 rifles (all three of my kids, as well as my spouse, regularly hunt so we own several rifles). I'd love to replace the scopes on some of these non-Blaser guns with more modern glass. Yet, I'm no longer willing to purchase new, high-end, "tubed" scopes as I inevitably end up marring the tubes when I either mount them in rings or move them from one rifle to another. Y'all have taught me the value of going with “railed” scopes, and I can't go back!
However, at least from my perspective, it has been a pain in the butt to find good solutions for attaching a railed scope to most non-Blaser firearms. The solutions, obviously, tend to be European, but they’re hard (again, at least for me) to figure out - for instance, I find the EAW Mounts catalog daunting. Also, I find that many of the European solutions put the scope pretty high.
I'm going to post some examples of things I've found on the internet to see if y'all might have any thoughts or insights (calling Pigeon, Teodor, Mr. Stokes, etc.) about these possible solutions (or if you have other ways) that would allow me to mate a railed scope with Weatherby, Sako and AR-type rifles.
Here's a beautiful solution that InnoGun has done with their Innomount product that allows for a railed scope with a Blaser Saddle mount to be attached to a Remington 700, however, I don’t believe that Innomount offers this in Weatherby or Sako flavors.
Here’s some Sako solutions. First is an EAW mount that I feel puts the scope too high:
Here’s a Recknagel mount that makes use of Sako’s Optilock base mounts and seems to put the scope a little lower:
(the rest of this overly long response will be in a quickly followed "part 2" - I think I ran out of allotted picture space)
I suspect that Ron was kind enough to start this thread on my behalf as I'd recently queried him about solutions for mounting railed scopes on non-Blaser guns.
Most of our bolt-action guns are Blaser R8s, but we also have some Weatherby, Sako and AR-15 rifles (all three of my kids, as well as my spouse, regularly hunt so we own several rifles). I'd love to replace the scopes on some of these non-Blaser guns with more modern glass. Yet, I'm no longer willing to purchase new, high-end, "tubed" scopes as I inevitably end up marring the tubes when I either mount them in rings or move them from one rifle to another. Y'all have taught me the value of going with “railed” scopes, and I can't go back!
However, at least from my perspective, it has been a pain in the butt to find good solutions for attaching a railed scope to most non-Blaser firearms. The solutions, obviously, tend to be European, but they’re hard (again, at least for me) to figure out - for instance, I find the EAW Mounts catalog daunting. Also, I find that many of the European solutions put the scope pretty high.
I'm going to post some examples of things I've found on the internet to see if y'all might have any thoughts or insights (calling Pigeon, Teodor, Mr. Stokes, etc.) about these possible solutions (or if you have other ways) that would allow me to mate a railed scope with Weatherby, Sako and AR-type rifles.
Here's a beautiful solution that InnoGun has done with their Innomount product that allows for a railed scope with a Blaser Saddle mount to be attached to a Remington 700, however, I don’t believe that Innomount offers this in Weatherby or Sako flavors.
Here’s some Sako solutions. First is an EAW mount that I feel puts the scope too high:
Here’s a Recknagel mount that makes use of Sako’s Optilock base mounts and seems to put the scope a little lower:
(the rest of this overly long response will be in a quickly followed "part 2" - I think I ran out of allotted picture space)
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Re: Rail Mounts
(Part 2):
I realize that many of our European brethren on BlaserBuds probably don’t hunt with, or maybe even own, AR-style guns, but we hunt with them regularly (particularly for pigs and predators). This is one of our AR-15s in 6.8 SPC II caliber that has a low-light, bigger scope on it (we use this in the evening for predator hunting). This Innomount solution works well with larger scopes:
However, when using “short-dot” scopes (like a 1-6x24 scope), the scope has to be mounted further forward. Here’s a pic of a tubed scope on a LaRue mount (a Texas-based company) that demonstrates how far forward the short-dot scopes need to mounted.
I haven’t been able to find too many mounting solutions that would allow a railed, short-dot scope to be mounted forward. Here’s a picture I got off of the web, but I can’t find out what kind of mount it is.
Thank y’all for any and all insights you might have about solutions for mounting railed scopes on non-Blaser rifles. I sure wish the American firearms manufacturers (and the American scope manufacturers) would see the light as it regards railed scopes.
Mark
I realize that many of our European brethren on BlaserBuds probably don’t hunt with, or maybe even own, AR-style guns, but we hunt with them regularly (particularly for pigs and predators). This is one of our AR-15s in 6.8 SPC II caliber that has a low-light, bigger scope on it (we use this in the evening for predator hunting). This Innomount solution works well with larger scopes:
However, when using “short-dot” scopes (like a 1-6x24 scope), the scope has to be mounted further forward. Here’s a pic of a tubed scope on a LaRue mount (a Texas-based company) that demonstrates how far forward the short-dot scopes need to mounted.
I haven’t been able to find too many mounting solutions that would allow a railed, short-dot scope to be mounted forward. Here’s a picture I got off of the web, but I can’t find out what kind of mount it is.
Thank y’all for any and all insights you might have about solutions for mounting railed scopes on non-Blaser rifles. I sure wish the American firearms manufacturers (and the American scope manufacturers) would see the light as it regards railed scopes.
Mark
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Re: Rail Mounts
System to Weaver:
http://www.titanium-gunworks.de/recknag ... hiene.html
The Titanium Scope Mount
http://www.titanium-gunworks.de/multiwa ... eitig.html
Bases:
http://www.titanium-gunworks.de/multiwa ... eitig.html
for different types of guns - including Blaser:
http://www.titanium-gunworks.de/innomou ... ntage.html
http://www.titanium-gunworks.de/innomou ... z-550.html
http://www.titanium-gunworks.de/innomou ... r-303.html
http://www.titanium-gunworks.de/innomou ... ka-t3.html
http://www.titanium-gunworks.de/recknag ... hiene.html
The Titanium Scope Mount
http://www.titanium-gunworks.de/multiwa ... eitig.html
Bases:
http://www.titanium-gunworks.de/multiwa ... eitig.html
for different types of guns - including Blaser:
http://www.titanium-gunworks.de/innomou ... ntage.html
http://www.titanium-gunworks.de/innomou ... z-550.html
http://www.titanium-gunworks.de/innomou ... r-303.html
http://www.titanium-gunworks.de/innomou ... ka-t3.html
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Re: Rail Mounts
Pigeon,
Thank you for your insights. Do you have any opinions of the MAK off-set sights that were shown at IWA 2018?
I can't find a picture of the MAK sights, but I've heard them mentioned.
Also, can you identify the type of mount in my last picture (on the AR-15)?
TIA,
Mark
Thank you for your insights. Do you have any opinions of the MAK off-set sights that were shown at IWA 2018?
I can't find a picture of the MAK sights, but I've heard them mentioned.
Also, can you identify the type of mount in my last picture (on the AR-15)?
TIA,
Mark
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Re: Rail Mounts
Stiller action and rail
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Measure it, when it’s on the deck