Re: Pulsar Thermion XM30
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:53 pm
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One thing I've noticed too is that thermal scopes are way behind hand held units as far as efficiency/clarity goes, that's to be expected as they have to make the scopes a certain shape, pack in more features, make it a le to withstand recoil.
If you look at the promo shots of the F455 you’ll se that the scope has to be in a high mount so the NV can be attached and clear the barrel. So not only do you have a crap cheek weld with your NV but with the day scope as well
Yes spot on. I spoke to the importer today and he told me a similar thing. Thermion is the way to go if you can afford it.Gun Barrel Ecologist wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:12 amIf you look at the promo shots of the F455 you’ll se that the scope has to be in a high mount so the NV can be attached and clear the barrel. So not only do you have a crap cheek weld with your NV but with the day scope as well
For the same $$ a N450 or N455 and an Innomount Blaser Mount gives you another system and you can leave the day scope in low rings. You will still need an adjustable stock like a GRS to get the optimal cheek weld
Sorry Speedy but I have to call you on that. Thermal is far from a gimmick.SPEEDY wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:07 amOne thing I've noticed too is that thermal scopes are way behind hand held units as far as efficiency/clarity goes, that's to be expected as they have to make the scopes a certain shape, pack in more features, make it a le to withstand recoil.
Once they start making a reasonable price external scope attachment that doubles as a monocle I will see a bigger value in them.
But I just picked up a 2600 lumin torch that will do as good a job for me as a thermal scope.
That's a personal view, I'm starting to think thermal is more a gimmic then an advantage really.
A thermal spotter has a lot of merit for passive spotting but once the quarry is spotted I reckon a HID light with your daytime scope will have the advantage.
Now thats all in a hunting context, but then whenever I've played with thermal out hunting, that's what it's been, something to play with that was cool.
Mates have hired thermal gear and it's been played with a couple of nights but the lights got run every night, not the thermal.
If your sitting in a deer blind, then that's different too, I can see the advantages of thermal then.
But my golden rule of firearms has always been the same, but whatever you want if it makes you happy then that's all that matters.
That sort of goes with what I was trying to say, as a spotter they are very useful but unless you get the real high end rifle mounted scopes then they don't offer that much advantage over a good light and a regular scope.Sigsako wrote:
I do a lot of spotlight culling the big hoppers for many farmers and was using a Halogen then HID Powabeam 9 inch spotlight. It was a great setup.
Then I incorporated the thermal scope as a hand held to help out a bit, which was a great inclusion as then I could see where everything is well beyond the spotlight.
Now I run the thermal scope mounted on top of the spotlight which is transferred into a small screen I mount on the dash. GAME CHANGER.
I can pick out the hoppers out well beyond the light so we just drive there then I use the spotlight in a traditional method. Numbers shot have easily doubled.
I have a KKC stock - so adjustment should not be an issue. In any event, in the UK my intended game is deer for which I need visual identification of species and sex to make sure I am shooting within seasonal restrictions. NV does not do that well enough. But having gone out with a friend with an Helion XP50 it makes a massive difference in revealing the presence of deer in a woodland setting or in foggy/misty conditions. Maybe Santa will have a surprise for me.9.3x64 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:15 amYes spot on. I spoke to the importer today and he told me a similar thing. Thermion is the way to go if you can afford it.Gun Barrel Ecologist wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:12 amIf you look at the promo shots of the F455 you’ll se that the scope has to be in a high mount so the NV can be attached and clear the barrel. So not only do you have a crap cheek weld with your NV but with the day scope as well
For the same $$ a N450 or N455 and an Innomount Blaser Mount gives you another system and you can leave the day scope in low rings. You will still need an adjustable stock like a GRS to get the optimal cheek weld