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Vischla or setter

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Lost my setter a month ago and miss her more than I thought I would. She was my third. After 20 years of Llewellan setters I’m wondering if I might try a Vischla. The main reason is that I live in AZ and it would be nice to have a dog that does not shed. I’m not worried about hunting performance. I’m sure that I can find a good Vischla for hunting. What I don’t know is how they are around the house, their general disposition, etc.

I have not yet found any available Vischla...the wait could be as long as a year. But I have found an excellent setter pup and need to act quickly. Should I forget about the new and stick with the familiar? I don’t know if anyone has ever successfully made the case that a Vischla is a better companion than a setter. Thoughts and comments are appreciated,



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Sorry to hear you lost your friend. Having gone through that, I can recommend a new pup.

Don't have a Visla, I'm owned by a couple of GWPs, but have met a few. If I didn't have a thing for wirehairs I'd consider getting a Visla. Like wirehairs - high energy and demanding of your attention, as you would expect for a HPR. Reputed to be great family dogs who love being with their pack but don't do well as "pen dogs". Great around the house provided they get plenty of exercise.

I'm not going to try to make the case that they are better companions than setters. We like the dogs we like..... Hope you find a pup!!
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I too am a Llewellyn Setter man and my fourth had a stroke while quail hunting last November. He is not long to be with us now, so I have been contemplating my next dog as well, I don’t think there is any breed that is a better companion than a llewellyn, but there are better dogs for hunting quail here in Arizona. I’ve seen GSPs and Drahtharrs that were better at it, but my heart is with the Llewelyn.
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I went from a pointing lab to a brittany and have been enjoying my 13 yr old Gordon setter, nicknamed Doofus.
The lab and brit did double duty with upland and waterfowl, not happening with the setter, ever.
After my Doofus passes, I'll probably go with a smaller French Brit as soon as the dust settles and the boss (wife) calms down.
I had a friend with a Visla and I wasn't impressed, but I can't blame the dog, as my friend was going through some tough times and didn't put a lot of time into training.
Still, It was a handful and probably spent half it's time on this planet in the air jumping from couch to couch for what seemed like hours when I would visit him.
It did calm down a little after about 5 years though.
A visla is a ricochet rabbit, compared to a deputy droop along setter.

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I think I’ll re up with another setter. I found a nice litter that had been pre-sold out but the dame delivered 9 pups so they had a few extra.

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:handgestures-thumbup: Hope its a good one.
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rsenatro wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:53 pm
Lost my setter a month ago and miss her more than I thought I would. She was my third. After 20 years of Llewellan setters I’m wondering if I might try a Vischla. The main reason is that I live in AZ and it would be nice to have a dog that does not shed. I’m not worried about hunting performance. I’m sure that I can find a good Vischla for hunting. What I don’t know is how they are around the house, their general disposition, etc.

I have not yet found any available Vischla...the wait could be as long as a year. But I have found an excellent setter pup and need to act quickly. Should I forget about the new and stick with the familiar? I don’t know if anyone has ever successfully made the case that a Vischla is a better companion than a setter. Thoughts and comments are appreciated,
Once you hunt upland/field game with a pointer or a setter you can never accept anything else.
Pure style,pure aristocracy... Everything else is an imitation..
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JPBlaser wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:57 am
Once you hunt upland/field game with a pointer or a setter you can never accept anything else.
Pure style,pure aristocracy... Everything else is an imitation..
Setters are a beautiful sight when pointing a bird, but they are a finicky breed.
My Gordon is a good hunter because he was able to hunt with my brit for 5 years.
Style is nice, but a dog is useless if it can't perform in the field.

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JPBlaser wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:57 am
rsenatro wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:53 pm
Lost my setter a month ago and miss her more than I thought I would. She was my third. After 20 years of Llewellan setters I’m wondering if I might try a Vischla. The main reason is that I live in AZ and it would be nice to have a dog that does not shed. I’m not worried about hunting performance. I’m sure that I can find a good Vischla for hunting. What I don’t know is how they are around the house, their general disposition, etc.

I have not yet found any available Vischla...the wait could be as long as a year. But I have found an excellent setter pup and need to act quickly. Should I forget about the new and stick with the familiar? I don’t know if anyone has ever successfully made the case that a Vischla is a better companion than a setter. Thoughts and comments are appreciated,
Once you hunt upland/field game with a pointer or a setter you can never accept anything else.
Pure style,pure aristocracy... Everything else is an imitation..
and that's why folks who know only hunt with a drathaar :handgestures-thumbup: :happy-partydance:
/Vaughan

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Re: Vischla or setter

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Vaughan wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:25 pm
JPBlaser wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:57 am
rsenatro wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:53 pm
Lost my setter a month ago and miss her more than I thought I would. She was my third. After 20 years of Llewellan setters I’m wondering if I might try a Vischla. The main reason is that I live in AZ and it would be nice to have a dog that does not shed. I’m not worried about hunting performance. I’m sure that I can find a good Vischla for hunting. What I don’t know is how they are around the house, their general disposition, etc.

I have not yet found any available Vischla...the wait could be as long as a year. But I have found an excellent setter pup and need to act quickly. Should I forget about the new and stick with the familiar? I don’t know if anyone has ever successfully made the case that a Vischla is a better companion than a setter. Thoughts and comments are appreciated,
Once you hunt upland/field game with a pointer or a setter you can never accept anything else.
Pure style,pure aristocracy... Everything else is an imitation..
and that's why folks who know only hunt with a drathaar :handgestures-thumbup: :happy-partydance:
Hunted for more than 15 years with drathaars... well... they do the job.... but it`s not pretty...
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Re: Vischla or setter

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Ah well, we'll just have to disagree on that :-) I've hunted with friends setters and spaniels. Fantastic dogs with different qualities. But I would still choose to spend my time with a wirehair. That's why we have lots of different breeds, so we can all hunt with the dogs we love.
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