Woodleigh 30 Cal 220gr RN SN

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Re: Woodleigh 30 Cal 220gr RN SN

Postby SPEEDY » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:51 am

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mchughcb wrote:A blaserbud shot a sambar hind with a 458 Win Mag in the forward chest a few weeks ago and it was tracked with dogs for another few hundred metres and required a finisher. The moral of the story is, use the 220g woodleighs :lol:


You can drop them on the spot with 130g SSTs from a .270, it's just that putting the bullet in the right spot is the tricky bit :D


A mate of mine swears by the old saying, if ya want em dead then shoot em in the head :lol:

But size doesn't matter on non dangerous game, is just putting the bullet in the right place.
That might be a 22lr to the head or a 375H&H up the clacker and through the heart.

It's putting it there where the skills come in.
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Re: Woodleigh 30 Cal 220gr RN SN

Postby canalrifle » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:36 pm

I think there are too many chances with "head shots." I'll stick with heart/lungs.

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Re: Woodleigh 30 Cal 220gr RN SN

Postby mchughcb » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:46 pm

Correct.

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Re: Woodleigh 30 Cal 220gr RN SN

Postby Gun Barrel Ecologist » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:52 pm

The chest is a big target on a sambar / elk and a hole placed just anywhere in the chest will not drop them within view of the shooting position even if you're running a .458

You need to familiarise yourself with just where the spine lies in the body at the front of the chest and the blood vessels below it - drop lower and to the rear and it's the top of the heart, hit higher and in front and you've spined him and depending on the bullet and how high you're either going to find him dropped on the spot and recover on approach or be paralysed but still blinking.

Bullet diameter and energy transfer gives a margin for error and as the vital plumbing under the spine isn't a large target, and most of us aren't using bench rests, or the next best thing a shooting rail on a high seat, I'll keep recommending cartridges launching bullets of 8.5mm or greater diameter - they have the frontal area to sever the aorta with their permanent cavity even if they don't directly hit it. Of course then you no longer need to spend each day cleaning up dog manure.... :whistle:

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Re: Woodleigh 30 Cal 220gr RN SN

Postby mchughcb » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:21 am

Another young stag out eating at dusk. The 220gr woodleigh gave a quartering shot through the chest out the liver delivery full penetration at 120m. Ran about 15m sat down. Got up stumbled 15m. Sat down. Game over. I gave this one to a property owner with deer issues and he got 25 steaks off the backstraps :dance:
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Re: Woodleigh 30 Cal 220gr RN SN

Postby stokesrj » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:36 am

I think you have pretty well proven that the Woodleigh 220gr RN SP is an effective Sambar bullet when fired from a 30-06. Most don't ever get to observe as many hits and reactions as you have chronicled here. I can't help but wonder if there would have been any difference with the same shot placement from say a 150 gr TTSX from the 30-06. Penetration would be similar and the temporary wound channel probably as large if not larger in diameter. We will probably never know and have to settle for anecdotal opinions by folks who shoot a half dozen or less with the load.
So far I'm impressed with my BD14 shooting the 125 grain TTSX at 3,200 fps, everything I've shot with it has been dead right there including some 250-300 pound boars and I have recovered no bullet yet. They just keep on going, but the X cut on the exit side hide shows they have all expanded. Probably the reason for the so far high percentage DRT results is because I'm mostly shooting high shoulder shots through bone.
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Re: Woodleigh 30 Cal 220gr RN SN

Postby mchughcb » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:55 am

Very interesting Rob. I have seen the TTSX work in other calibres. I'd say their performance was pretty good too. Some people swear by them. The 125gr @3200fps is steaming compared to the sedate 2400 fps or so from my handload. It would be very interesting to see what the performance would be like as the trajectory would be much better out to 300m.

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Re: Woodleigh 30 Cal 220gr RN SN

Postby SPEEDY » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:20 am

I've always found that the TTSX and especially the TSX need speed to work, but then when they were designed and brought out the advertising stated that they were designed so you could drop the bullet weight down, get a flatter shooting load and still retain the same weight as a bonded round.
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Re: Woodleigh 30 Cal 220gr RN SN

Postby stokesrj » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:31 am

Correction that is the 130 grain TTSX not 125, Catalog # 30364.
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Re: Woodleigh 30 Cal 220gr RN SN

Postby Oscar » Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:29 pm

More for the Oz based members but am looking to find the bigger brother of this projectile, namely the 286 rasp for the 9.3 but all the usual online store I use only have the pp or have an e
" email me when available I'm tempted to refer to it as the rocking horse poo projectile ha ha.

I have Bertram's for the 74 version but want the woodies for the 62 and from this thread and others it would appear the RN is the go.

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Re: Woodleigh 30 Cal 220gr RN SN

Postby Gun Barrel Ecologist » Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:35 pm

How many boxes Oscar?

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Re: Woodleigh 30 Cal 220gr RN SN

Postby deerhunter338mag » Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:47 pm

If you find a projectile that your confident with and it's working then stick to it.
Measure it, when it’s on the deck

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Re: Woodleigh 30 Cal 220gr RN SN

Postby mchughcb » Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:59 pm

Pretty sure the 286 pp is going to kill well emough. My 286 interlocks do.


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