Just how good a job did Obama do selling guns?

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Re: Just how good a job did Obama do selling guns?

Postby SPEEDY » Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:37 pm

It will be interesting, getting control of the deficit is a staggering $65,536 per person in the country but wait it gets worse. Every tax payer has to make up the difference so that's $166,775 per tax payer.
That's a house, you have to pay off a house due to government greed and incompetence at a time when record numbers are losing their actually homes because they have no money and the jobs are being sent overseas.
Obama said the Bush had to go because he increased the national debt to 7 trillion, that's 4 trillion under his administration, that's $30,000 for every man, women and children and it has to stop.
Then he doubles the entire debt, practically doubles Bush, but they/you forgive him, even though thats a whopping 72% of your national GDP. Thats a man that should have been impeached, you now have a debt that you can never pay, the remaining GDP can't possibly support the nation with a deficit like that, if you have had the bills pileup like that and only had 28% of your wage left to spend then you have to cut back a lot, especially on luxurys.
For the next 20-25 years you will be throwing 72% of your national wage down an almost bottomless pit.
How do you Fucked up so bad that you blow 7 trillion in just 8 years.
Then he gets a Nobel peace prize for what, being in war for longer then any other president in US history, for being responsible for the drone program and dropping 100,000 bombs a year, if you go by population density as a percentage then in his 8 years in office his drone program has killed one 9/11 worth of victims every day that he has been in office and has resulted in increasing terrorism and spreading it. Apparently there has been a 1000% or so increase in terrorism since 9/11 not less, now it's effecting every country in the world.

No Trump was very right, a change was needed, the system is broken and it's going to take a lot to fix it.
Islam, IS the great Satan. :angry-devil:

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Re: Just how good a job did Obama do selling guns?

Postby thechamp » Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:16 pm

I'm not sure it really can be fixed. I reckon we'll see how much progress can be made toward at least having a plan in place to fix it over the next 100 years. The entitlement nonsense has to stop. I'd been hearing and then saw it in an article earlier today where 28% of the Federal work force says they're going to quit now that Trump is in office. First off, not going to happen but it would be a damn good start. Every agency needs to be looked at hard and a lot of crap discontinued because it's 'make work' anyway to justify more personnel. They need to CUT about half the general expenses and get the military in the shape it needs to be in to be able to take care of business. Hopefully the US and Russia might partner up to take ISIS and the crazy muslims to task once and for all. (ok I might be dreaming there but stranger things have happened) Getting the ISIS staff out of the White House is a big step in the right direction. Lots of them were hired in and they need to be 'hired out'. It didn't get this way overnight and it won't get cleaned up in 4 or 8 years. Doesn't exactly make one feel good about the future. Feels much better but a lot of battles remain.

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Re: Just how good a job did Obama do selling guns?

Postby thechamp » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:12 pm

Time for the January 2017 NICS news. The predictions were that gun sales were going to fall off since Trump was elected and the immediate fear of Hillary instituting more gun laws was out of the way. The numbers are out and IMO it's good news for the gun companies and the people. NICS checks for January were 2,043,184 which puts this January #3 in volume since the checks were started. January 2016 was 2,545,802 and January 2013 was 2,495,440.

Considering the immediate threat had been removed we still outperformed 2014 and 2015. The coming months will further clarify where we are but for now it looks like the American people are still buying guns at levels rarely seen before. If the Nationwide Reciprocal Carry is approved I would think that it will spur a very healthy market as people arm themselves.



January
2006 775,518
2007 894,608
2008 942,556
2009 1,213,885
2010 1,119,229
2011 1,323,336
2012 1,377,301
2013 2,495,440
2014 1,660,355
2015 1,772,794
2016 2,545,802
2017 2,043,184


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Re: Just how good a job did Obama do selling guns?

Postby thechamp » Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:57 am

Hopefully these numbers will hold as we move through 2017. February and March were both very good months for NCIS checks. February turned in the 3rd highest number of checks and March followed by doing the same.


February 2017 - 2,234,817 (#1 Feb 2016 with 2,613,074, #2 Feb 2013, 2,309,393.)
March 2017 - 2,433,092 (#1 Feb 2016 with 2,523,265, #2 Feb 2014, 2,488,842.)

March 2017 was very strong coming in 3rd with roughly 90,000 less than March 2016 which was a record that will probably last throughout the Trump years. March 2014 held on to #2 by roughly 55,000 over 2017.

The liberal media has put out quite a few stories that gun sales were way off from the Obama years and of course Remington laid off a lot of workers which they claim are a result of the slow down. I suspect Remington's lay offs are coming from a decreasing market share due to the quality or lack there of that they are sending out the door. Sooner or later even the Walmart shopper figures out he's buying junk. Ruger is probably doing a number on Remington's long gun sales as well as Sako's Tikka line which blows the 700s away. Probably a few more but I don't really keep that close a watch on that market. S&W did say that their long guns were kicking butt still so that's nice to know.

Bottom line things are looking much better than what I thought they might reflect from reading the media's BS.


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