Just how good a job did Obama do selling guns?

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stokesrj wrote:He's still doing a pretty good job.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/06 ... do-attack/
Thanks for posting that. I saw a link earlier in the week that a gun shop in PA had sold 15,000 ARs since the shooting. At the time the only one I could think of was Euro who might have that kind of stroke. I've never heard of this outfit. Looking at his website it's not all that impressive. His inventory links to Davidsons... Wondering if anyone here has been there or done business with them. The claim of having 300,000 to 400,000 weapons in stock is a bit hard to believe.

Bottom line glad they are on the way to their new owners. We need a few million more to find homes. The more that are out there the more trouble the government is going to have rounding them up. Plus the more gun owners we have the better our odds are in November of not losing it to the Clintonistas. I'm sure tiring of these 'most important elections in our life' every few years. :(

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jeff wrote:Saw this on on FB last week....

Good one. He's hard at it. Little does he know that all those ARs and other weapons are going to be instrumental in whipping the snot out of the religious kooks that he's bringing in by the thousands.

There are several others out there that are pretty spot on. One that's floating around is this one:
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thechamp wrote:

Bottom line glad they are on the way to their new owners. We need a few million more to find homes. The more that are out there the more trouble the government is going to have rounding them up. Plus the more gun owners we have the better our odds are in November of not losing it to the Clintonistas. I'm sure tiring of these 'most important elections in our life' every few years. :(
I wonder if you realize just how true that statement is, having been raped of my semi autos by a politician on a power trip spurred on by leftists in the UN and our closet socialist political parties.

Buy up and dont let them know where they are and make sure that they cant afford to buy them off of you.
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thechamp wrote:
jeff wrote:Saw this on on FB last week....

Good one. He's hard at it. Little does he know that all those ARs and other weapons are going to be instrumental in whipping the snot out of the religious kooks that he's bringing in by the thousands.

There are several others out there that are pretty spot on. One that's floating around is this one:

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Well said, and kudos to you all there.

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Bottom line glad they are on the way to their new owners. We need a few million more to find homes. The more that are out there the more trouble the government is going to have rounding them up.
I wish there were millions of 80% lowers getting sold, so there was no paperwork trail at all....AIUI, the FFL has to keep the form filled in for the NICS check and hence if they REALLY wanted to, the BATF could trace every sale. Is that correct?



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Bottom line glad they are on the way to their new owners. We need a few million more to find homes. The more that are out there the more trouble the government is going to have rounding them up.
I wish there were millions of 80% lowers getting sold, so there was no paperwork trail at all....AIUI, the FFL has to keep the form filled in for the NICS check and hence if they REALLY wanted to, the BATF could trace every sale. Is that correct?



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jeff wrote:
thechamp wrote:
Bottom line glad they are on the way to their new owners. We need a few million more to find homes. The more that are out there the more trouble the government is going to have rounding them up.
I wish there were millions of 80% lowers getting sold, so there was no paperwork trail at all....AIUI, the FFL has to keep the form filled in for the NICS check and hence if they REALLY wanted to, the BATF could trace every sale. Is that correct?



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Good question. They can trace it to the first buyer via the paper trail from the distributor to the shop that sells it to the individual or if it's transferred to another FFL somewhere else as a dealer trade or sale to another dealer. Somewhere along that trail it will result in a FFL NICS check and the form you fill out when you buy a gun (new or used) from a dealer.

What's driving the lefties nutty is that that buyer can sell it to anyone he so chooses to sell it to without a federal form to document where it went. Now granted if you sell it to your buddy and they come asking where it went you'll tell them who you sold it to. But if it's sold in the state to someone you meet on a bulletin board and really don't know it can get interesting. Most of us do a firearm bill of sale to document the purchase of a gun that we are assuming isn't stolen from someone we don't know. Thieves probably won't fill one out so if they don't want to, you decline the deal and move on. At least that would be the prudent thing to do in my opinion. I'll also share with any potential buyer or seller that I'm retired LEO. If they still want to do business I'll assume till proven otherwise that they are on the up and up. Most of the guys that hang around the local boards are there all the time and I'd be shocked to find one doing something illegal.

However on that note, you might have seen the post I did here not too long ago where a young Houston Tx police officer had a couple of personal guns to sell. He listed it on the Texas Gun Trader and the buyer contacted him to arrange to meet at a park. When he drove up he said something just didn't feel right. He started to leave and the buyer called him that he was there. He went back and when the buyer opened the passenger's door he attempted to shoot the officer. Luckily the gun misfired/jammed, etc. He backed up quickly, got out and drew his off duty gun and they exchanged some rounds. He wasn't hit but one of the robbers was. I did a quick on line search and found the story in the Houston paper. It didn't say if he told the guys he was a LEO or not. I wouldn't be surprised in this day if he did and they just considered it a bigger challenge. I have to hand it to the young guy that he didn't run from them and did what he had to do. Some guys would have been so terrified they have left and kept their mouth shut leaving these vermin to do it again.

I sure liked the old days when it was all country folks around here and they just wanted to buy or sell something and BS about guns and hunting.


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FBI released their NCIS numbers for June on July 1st. We set a new record and are on track to smash all previous records. The report showed 2,131,485 FBI Background Checks for June 2016. This represents roughly 600,000 more checks over June 2015 which was the highest June on record. The Orlando murders happened on June 12 so the new record was set in the 18 days after the incident.

So much for the 'off season' lull that normally happens in May and June. :lol: The first 6 months of 2016 stand at 13,829,491. If we do the same the last 6 months we'll break 27 million. The previous record year was 2013 with 21,093,273.

Between the leftist media and their lies and the RINOs who've turned on Trump with more zeal and outright hatred than they ever did against Obama things don't look good for the Republicans to take the white house. At this point we can only hope and pray that we keep the majority in the House and the slim majority in the Senate. Losing either one will not be good.


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I have to say, if your fellow countrymen vote for Clinton, you really will get the Government the voters deserve. Time for another Civil war, perhaps?


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jeff wrote:I have to say, if your fellow countrymen vote for Clinton, you really will get the Government the voters deserve. Time for another Civil war, perhaps?


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While there are some that advocate something on that order they don't realize what they're asking for. First off there is no guarantee what would happen and who would 'win' it. While the guys with guns seem to think they are invincible that is not the case. You would hope after one of the bloodiest civil wars in history that people wouldn't even think along those lines. What our ancestors built here was an amazing country made up of people from all over the globe who came here looking for that opportunity to earn a honest living and be part of what we call the USA. Now between the deadbeats, the 'free everything crowd' and the Islamic nutcases the USA we were born into is a big mess. All I can say is hopefully it'll get sorted out without any kind of armed conflicts between the people and the government. It'll be up to the ones ruling (if they were governing we wouldn't have this mess) to figure out a way to keep that from happening because a whole lot of people are really fed up.

OTOH if the Islamic idiots keep the pedal to the metal the people will vote for Trump over the Hildebeast. A few more of their murdering rampages in this country between now and election day might wake up a few more of the 'middle' or independents. If they took the next 5 months off they'd be free to kill as many people as their Allah instructs them to when they returned from their leave. Hillary will be very busy declaring war on her black list which appears to start with the 2nd Amendment.

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Our country finally gave an up yours to the two main political parties, what do they do but have a cry and and try splut the Senate up so their people stay in and the minor parties have to gight them againvin a half term election.
Politics is an old jiys club and trump is exactly what you need to dhake them out of it over there.
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Late on updated stats for July 2016 but it was a good one. NICS checks were 2,197,169, setting a new record. July 2015 was 1,600,832. For 2015 with 7 months in the books we're at 16,026,660 year to date.

From what I hear and the little I see online it doesn't appear that people are buying the black rifles like they've done in the past. Either they have all they need or they're not worried about being able to buy them down the road. Prices haven't moved much so inventories were adequate to supply the current market including handguns which appear to be the most sought after weapons.

I read an interesting article the other day where the writer doesn't really think Hillary will go after the guns with the zest that it appears. His argument was that this is a democrat plank that is used to raise money much like the Republicans use the Roe vs Wade cause to abolish legal abortions. He says both parties rely on these two causes to raise capital and if they actually succeeded in either case it would remove millions from their campaigns. I understand his point and do believe he's dead on with the Republicans but the Democrats hate guns with such a passion that I do believe they will continue to make it tougher and more expensive to own any gun and if they could implement an Aussie type regulation they would do it in a heartbeat. There is much more money being thrown from the anti-gun jackasses like Bloomberg and Soros than anyone is throwing at the Roe vs Wade ruling. Plus the UN is firmly on the side of un-arming American citizens.

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Hillary the evil will come after them make no mistake about that, shes all wet a gooey after talking to little Johnny Howard about his success and all the wonderful things it accomplished (even if they are imaginary) for Australia's security and safety.

She will come for them either first thing or Obama style on the way out.

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SPEEDY wrote:Hillary the evil will come after them make no mistake about that, shes all wet a gooey after talking to little Johnny Howard about his success and all the wonderful things it accomplished
Oh what a horrible visual.....thank you so much for that. Not.



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I'm more qualified than most to answer this question.

Obama made it impossible for me to walk into a federal job (hiring freeze) when I graduated college in 2011.
Falling months behind on bills I started a firearms related business in 2012. I sold it in 2015.
Obama made it possible for me to pay off my student loans in full.
Obama made it possible for me to be completely debt free.
Obama made it possible for me to be retired at 35.

I see people ask this question and I laugh. That's how good of a job he did. I cannot thank him enough!

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