Good news for US hunters

A place to discuss regulations, or the over regulation in most case, that our members have to deal with in their respective countries. Hopefully discussion will lead to more rules based on common sense, rather than fears by the government.

Moderators: skeetshot, deerhunter338mag

Post Reply
User avatar
Gun Barrel Ecologist
Moderator
Posts: 5052
Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:54 pm
Location: New Zealand

Good news for US hunters

Post by Gun Barrel Ecologist »

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/day-1 ... le/2616278
Day 1: Interior's Zinke welcomes back hunters, shooters, anglers

By PAUL BEDARD (@SECRETSBEDARD) • 3/2/17 2:04 PM
SHARE
TWEET
MailPrintMore
On his first day as the new Interior secretary, Ryan Zinke reached out to hunters, target shooters and anglers by removing the last minute Obama ban on lead used to make traditional bullets and fishing weights.

"Outdoor recreation is about both our heritage and our economy. Between hunting, fishing, motorized recreation, camping and more, the industry generates thousands of jobs and billions of dollars in economic activity," said Zinke in a statement Thursday.

He also opened the door to outdoors enthusiasts to help form policy on public lands.

"Over the past eight years however, hunting, and recreation enthusiasts have seen trails closed and dramatic decreases in access to public lands across the board. It worries me to think about hunting and fishing becoming activities for the landowning elite. This package of secretarial orders will expand access for outdoor enthusiasts and also make sure the community's voice is heard," he added.

The Obama administration put a ban on lead on federal land despite urgings from outdoors groups for more study.

In his order, that's exactly what Zinke called for. The signing ceremony was attended by several influential in the outdoors sports world, including Chris W. Cox, the head of the National Rifle Association's legislative arm.

The praise from those who use cheaper lead bullets, for example, was swift.

"Secretary Zinke's rapid response to the previous administration's parting shot on hunters, target shooters and anglers demonstrates the true friend and common sense solutions we can expect from the Department of the Interior," said Lawrence G. Keane, senior vice president of the National Shooting Sports Foundation, which represents manufacturers.

"The timing of the traditional ammunition ban on federal lands tells you everything you need to know about the decision. Likewise, the decisive action by Secretary Zinke tells you what you need to know and what we can expect from an Interior Secretary who himself is a hunter, angler and outdoor sportsman," he added.

Cox, executive director of NRA's Institute for Legislative Action, said, "The Obama administration failed to consult with state fish and wildlife agencies or national angling and hunting organizations in issuing this order. This was not a decision based on sound scientific evidence — it was a last second attack on traditional ammunition and our hunting heritage."

He added, "The fact is that traditional ammunition does not pose a significant population-level risk for wildlife. On behalf of the five million members of the NRA and tens of millions of American sportsmen, we thank Secretary Zinke for eliminating this arbitrary attack on our hunting heritage."

Zinke also showed is support for outdoors enthusiasts by reestablishing former President George W. Bush's Wildlife and Hunting Heritage Conservation Council which gave sportsmen and women a role in outdoors policies.
What Zinke does to the USF&WS import regs remains to be seen :pray:

On the topic of lead ammo, is it true the FSC in Europe - who we see here certifying our paper towel and bog roll - have a policy of no lead shot in forests they certify? An interesting policy given the common use here of copper nails to kill neighbours trees and protect scenic views :think:

dchamp
Meister der jagd
Posts: 1154
Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:42 pm
Location: USA
Location: Bakersfield, CA

Re: Good news for US hunters

Post by dchamp »

That's very interesting, I wonder :think: how or if it will have any impact for us here in California. Probably not. :(
I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo

The fact that Jellyfish have survived 650 million years, despite not having brains, gives hope to many people. sun-gazing.com

thechamp
Administrator
Posts: 8729
Joined: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:25 pm
Location: San Antonio
Location: San Antonio, Tx.

Re: Good news for US hunters

Post by thechamp »

Everything I saw on him earlier was 100% positive for the outdoorsman. Let's hope we can keep him in office for 8 years and beyond. The left is pulling out all the stops to make the new administration's job as hard as possible. Read an article earlier where they have a group that will do their best to stall or stop the other 900 appointments that have to be made for the administration to get all the people in place to start fixing this disaster. We've got great folks at the helm to really do believe in our country and have goals to make life better for all.
Gun Barrel Ecologist wrote: An interesting policy given the common use here of copper nails to kill neighbours trees and protect scenic views :think:
This is something I've never heard of. If I understand it correctly you can drive a copper nail into a tree and kill it? So what would keep us from shooting trees with copper bullets and achieving the same goal? Californians could declare war on the state's precious trees and get away with it by claiming they missed the game animal? :lol: Some of our long range guys could wreak havoc on a forest from afar. :? Moonbeam would lose it the rest of the way. BTW I have nothing against trees or forest but common sense should be in play when dealing with both....

dchamp
Meister der jagd
Posts: 1154
Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:42 pm
Location: USA
Location: Bakersfield, CA

Re: Good news for US hunters

Post by dchamp »

Sounds like good practice, but they would just use it as an excuse to ban all hunting and shooting. I'm thinking I'm liking the idea of calexit/secession more and more. My thinking is if they are successful seceding from the rest of the country California will immediately fragment into to different regions and we would be able to free ourselves from these socialist loons.
I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo

The fact that Jellyfish have survived 650 million years, despite not having brains, gives hope to many people. sun-gazing.com

thechamp
Administrator
Posts: 8729
Joined: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:25 pm
Location: San Antonio
Location: San Antonio, Tx.

Re: Good news for US hunters

Post by thechamp »

dchamp wrote:Sounds like good practice, but they would just use it as an excuse to ban all hunting and shooting. I'm thinking I'm liking the idea of calexit/secession more and more. My thinking is if they are successful seceding from the rest of the country California will immediately fragment into to different regions and we would be able to free ourselves from these socialist loons.

Bingo. And removing California from the other states will remove that monster liberal voting block that is guaranteed to go for the leftist idiots no matter what they propose to do. Lots of electors tied to those votes that would be spread out across the rest of the country. Of course once California split up there's nothing that would prevent some of your new states from coming back to the USA. Let the know-it-alls fend for themselves. Could do the same for New York..... :mrgreen:

dchamp
Meister der jagd
Posts: 1154
Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:42 pm
Location: USA
Location: Bakersfield, CA

Re: Good news for US hunters

Post by dchamp »

thechamp wrote:Bingo. And removing California from the other states will remove that monster liberal voting block that is guaranteed to go for the leftist idiots no matter what they propose to do. Lots of electors tied to those votes that would be spread out across the rest of the country. Of course once California split up there's nothing that would prevent some of your new states from coming back to the USA. Let the know-it-alls fend for themselves. Could do the same for New York.....
My thoughts exactly :mrgreen:
I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo

The fact that Jellyfish have survived 650 million years, despite not having brains, gives hope to many people. sun-gazing.com

thechamp
Administrator
Posts: 8729
Joined: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:25 pm
Location: San Antonio
Location: San Antonio, Tx.

Re: Good news for US hunters

Post by thechamp »

Saw this news story on the new Interior Secretary with him arriving for work his first day on horseback. He's a fifth generation Montanan who enjoys the outdoors and is probably very comfortable on a horse. Sure beats the horse's ass that was there in the last administration. :lol: :lol:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ ... spartanntp

rick137
Posts: 447
Joined: Mon May 05, 2014 5:38 pm
Location: Eugene OR USA

Re: Good news for US hunters

Post by rick137 »

Be careful what you wish for. After Calexit the border wall will run along California's border with other states. CA can have an open border policy and all immigrants will be legal. And I do not want it built before I escape to Oregon in a few months.

My sincere condolences to all Buds trapped in CA.
Paper is my game, steel the same.

dchamp
Meister der jagd
Posts: 1154
Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:42 pm
Location: USA
Location: Bakersfield, CA

Re: Good news for US hunters

Post by dchamp »

rick137 wrote:Be careful what you wish for. After Calexit the border wall will run along California's border with other states. CA can have an open border policy and all immigrants will be legal. And I do not want it built before I escape to Oregon in a few months.

My sincere condolences to all Buds trapped in CA.
You could be right, but I think California would possibly implode and break apart much faster than any boarder fences could be put up. Also there are, I believe, a good many counties that would like to separate themselves from the politics of the L.A. Basin and the San Francisco Bay Area. But this is all speculation and the odds are it ill not happen, nor will our chances of being allowed to use lead bullets in the hunting fields of California's condor country.
I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo

The fact that Jellyfish have survived 650 million years, despite not having brains, gives hope to many people. sun-gazing.com

User avatar
SPEEDY
Moderator
Posts: 11280
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:50 am
Location: Southern highland- Australia
Location: Albury, NSW, Australia

Re: Good news for US hunters

Post by SPEEDY »

The funny bit about Calexit is that if Hillary got in then every state east of California and south of Washington would have done their own exit.
I'm soft and I don't care. :dance:

thechamp
Administrator
Posts: 8729
Joined: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:25 pm
Location: San Antonio
Location: San Antonio, Tx.

Re: Good news for US hunters

Post by thechamp »

SPEEDY wrote:The funny bit about Calexit is that if Hillary got in then every state east of California and south of Washington would have done their own exit.

Yep, about nails it. OTOH I think Hillary should run for Governor of California once Moonbeam's term is up. Her talents would finish the job in a jiffy.

User avatar
SPEEDY
Moderator
Posts: 11280
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:50 am
Location: Southern highland- Australia
Location: Albury, NSW, Australia

Re: Good news for US hunters

Post by SPEEDY »

Well she will never have another chance to be president, so she's at her ceiling rank. Maybe a change to governor will give her the chance she so desperately wants to leave her legacy.

Good luck with that.
I'm soft and I don't care. :dance:

thechamp
Administrator
Posts: 8729
Joined: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:25 pm
Location: San Antonio
Location: San Antonio, Tx.

Re: Good news for US hunters

Post by thechamp »

She'd be elected in New York or California in a heartbeat. She'd probably win with 60-70% of the vote in either one. Unless she is indicted for all her criminal activity she will be running for POTUS in 2020. I'd wager on that happening. She will not go away quietly into the night. Not her style. She's owed that position in life. I'm hoping Elizabeth Warren is the democrat's choice for 2020. They really don't have anyone left in their upper echelon that has a clue. The fruitcakes have taken over the party and will never support anyone that might appeal to the middle American. Middle America meaning someone that isn't smart enough to see what they are all about and still thinks they're voting for the person and not the party. Sad to say but we have quite a few of those IQ challenged folks that can and do sway the election results one way or the other.

User avatar
SPEEDY
Moderator
Posts: 11280
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:50 am
Location: Southern highland- Australia
Location: Albury, NSW, Australia

Re: Good news for US hunters

Post by SPEEDY »

Lost one race cor candidate and then lost the presidential race to Donald Trump.
I don't think it matters what she wants the party won't risk her again IMO.
Shame too, she would loose to Trump again and that's a good thing.
I'm soft and I don't care. :dance:

Post Reply

Return to “International Firearms Freedoms”