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Re: Terminal Performance

Post by deerhunter338mag » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:46 pm

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Starting at 2400fps at 200 yards its still above 1900 fps. So 250 fps would be the max to get reliable expansion. You may not be able to get those velocities in 308 but dropping down to 200gr might be better.
I have to agree with you there Chuck, be like putting a turbo on a 1.8l 4 cylinder engine and trying to pull 2 tonne caravan. Might move it, but its not going to get you far. Drop down to 180gr SST and get it going as hard as safely possible and send us the photos of the damage of how you turned your 308 into a 300wm. :dance:

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Re: Terminal Performance

Post by mchughcb » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:36 pm

Here is a 180gr SST shot from a 30-06 at 80m yesterday. What is left of the bullet was found in the meat on the opposite shoulder. Target was a big sambar hind at 80m. The deer managed to run 15m and crash and die. Lots of jelly meat damage on the front portion of the animal. There was only a tiny piece of the core of the lead found with the jacket. The rest was smashed to pieces. I don't have a scales with me but I'd estimate 60gr left.
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Re: Terminal Performance

Post by SPEEDY » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:18 pm

Rifletuner wrote:
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Great work there Bob. Here are the only Woodleigh 65C RNSP 220gr that I have recovered from a few hundred sambar. If these are the recovered ones then its fair to say that the ones that exited looked something like that too. Ranges are from 50m to 250m at all angles. If you read the list down then and the picture across then the weights correspond to the bullet. The last bullet is a 7mm Hornady interlock from my 7x57R into a Sambar front on at 80m. Retained weight was only the core at 38gr or 22%.

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Hi Charles. Thats great info. Any idea what velocity range your 220gn load is actually doing at the distances you are shooting? Just wondering because I have been thinking about trying the 220gn Woodleigh in my 308win based on your experience with that bullet on sambar from your 3006. Most people I have discussed it with tell me the bullet will be "too slow" from a 308 but I am not so sure that wold be the case. Certainly not what I would use for longer ranges, but based on your reported results I am thinking it could be a good option out to 200 yards or so.
I can tell you with on game performance I found the Sierra 220gn at 2300fps very good. Might have been 2200fps, but I did a write up in the reloading section if you search for it. (If your curios enough)
I've taken Fallow and Sambar with it from 30m to around 150m. I don't know about any further but 150m I recovers (my only recovered 220gn Sierra) and it still weighed about 190gn from memory.

I'm over fishing in Thailand at the moment but if you remind when I'm home I will weight and take some photos for you but it mushroomed very well at that range and speed.
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Re: Terminal Performance

Post by deerhunter338mag » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:29 pm

mchughcb wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:36 pm
Here is a 180gr SST shot from a 30-06 at 80m yesterday. What is left of the bullet was found in the meat on the opposite shoulder. Target was a big sambar hind at 80m. The deer managed to run 15m and crash and die. Lots of jelly meat damage on the front portion of the animal. There was only a tiny piece of the core of the lead found with the jacket. The rest was smashed to pieces. I don't have a scales with me but I'd estimate 60gr left.
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Re: Terminal Performance

Post by Perdizhunter » Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:23 pm

In 2017 , I decided to verify SST 180 grains , Field Performance
As I only hunt Wild Hogs , night Hunting using thermal devices , shooting distances are from 30 - 300 meters , and most at 100 meters
I shooted 50 wild hogs ( pure breed ) , biggest 160 kg , and most around 50-60 kg , always aimming shoulder .
My guns : - CZ 550 Varmint Kevlar ( 30 hogs ) SST 180 @ 2650 Ft/seg and a Benelli R1 (20 hogs) same Bullet @ 2550 Ft/sec., both In .308 Win
Every hog with a “hit” , was recovered . Only one running more than 70 meters ( almost a miss , a belly shot.)
Some bullets weren’t recovered . Only one bullet recovered that jacket came apart
SST 180 grains at this velocities Were very effective !!!

I have some pictures of recovered bullets , I”m gonna try to post them
619D06C3-32A9-41B5-A7F8-9DAAE412E367.jpeg
9EC26F11-29D3-4EDB-9ADB-9BBD3EDF7812.jpeg
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Re: Terminal Performance

Post by Rifletuner » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:26 pm

SPEEDY wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:18 pm

I can tell you with on game performance I found the Sierra 220gn at 2300fps very good. Might have been 2200fps, but I did a write up in the reloading section if you search for it. (If your curios enough)
I've taken Fallow and Sambar with it from 30m to around 150m. I don't know about any further but 150m I recovers (my only recovered 220gn Sierra) and it still weighed about 190gn from memory.

I'm over fishing in Thailand at the moment but if you remind when I'm home I will weight and take some photos for you but it mushroomed very well at that range and speed.
Thanks. Found the reloading post. The performance on game with your 220gn Sierra load is what I would expect, but didnt have the data to verify. It would be good to see an update on the load with recovered projectiles when you get a chance.

I was really expecting to take a bit of a beating from the 220gn Woodleigh, but it is surprisingly comfortable to shoot. Seems like you fond much the same with the 220 Sierra.

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Re: Terminal Performance

Post by mchughcb » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:47 pm

Perdizhunter wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:23 pm
In 2017 , I decided to verify SST 180 grains , Field Performance
As I only hunt Wild Hogs , night Hunting using thermal devices , shooting distances are from 30 - 300 meters , and most at 100 meters
I shooted 50 wild hogs ( pure breed ) , biggest 160 kg , and most around 50-60 kg , always aimming shoulder .
My guns : - CZ 550 Varmint Kevlar ( 30 hogs ) SST 180 @ 2650 Ft/seg and a Benelli R1 (20 hogs) same Bullet @ 2550 Ft/sec., both In .308 Win
Every hog with a “hit” , was recovered . Only one running more than 70 meters ( almost a miss , a belly shot.)
Some bullets weren’t recovered . Only one bullet recovered that jacket came apart
SST 180 grains at this velocities Were very effective !!!

I have some pictures of recovered bullets , I”m gonna try to post them

619D06C3-32A9-41B5-A7F8-9DAAE412E367.jpeg

9EC26F11-29D3-4EDB-9ADB-9BBD3EDF7812.jpeg
Outstanding work.

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Re: Terminal Performance

Post by SPEEDY » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:05 pm

Rifletuner wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:26 pm
SPEEDY wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:18 pm

I can tell you with on game performance I found the Sierra 220gn at 2300fps very good. Might have been 2200fps, but I did a write up in the reloading section if you search for it. (If your curios enough)
I've taken Fallow and Sambar with it from 30m to around 150m. I don't know about any further but 150m I recovers (my only recovered 220gn Sierra) and it still weighed about 190gn from memory.

I'm over fishing in Thailand at the moment but if you remind when I'm home I will weight and take some photos for you but it mushroomed very well at that range and speed.
Thanks. Found the reloading post. The performance on game with your 220gn Sierra load is what I would expect, but didnt have the data to verify. It would be good to see an update on the load with recovered projectiles when you get a chance.

I was really expecting to take a bit of a beating from the 220gn Woodleigh, but it is surprisingly comfortable to shoot. Seems like you fond much the same with the 220 Sierra.
I actually stoped using them for a kind of funny reason, I found that for game like foxes they were too tough and switched back to the 165gn partition as i5s the do it all projectile.
I should load a few when I get home and give them another go, I actually have some 240gn woodleigh pills that I want to load up to see how fast I can launch them.
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Re: Terminal Performance

Post by secondtry » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:05 am

mchughcb wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:47 pm
Perdizhunter wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:23 pm
In 2017 , I decided to verify SST 180 grains , Field Performance
As I only hunt Wild Hogs , night Hunting using thermal devices , shooting distances are from 30 - 300 meters , and most at 100 meters
I shooted 50 wild hogs ( pure breed ) , biggest 160 kg , and most around 50-60 kg , always aimming shoulder .
My guns : - CZ 550 Varmint Kevlar ( 30 hogs ) SST 180 @ 2650 Ft/seg and a Benelli R1 (20 hogs) same Bullet @ 2550 Ft/sec., both In .308 Win
Every hog with a “hit” , was recovered . Only one running more than 70 meters ( almost a miss , a belly shot.)
Some bullets weren’t recovered . Only one bullet recovered that jacket came apart
SST 180 grains at this velocities Were very effective !!!

I have some pictures of recovered bullets , I”m gonna try to post them

619D06C3-32A9-41B5-A7F8-9DAAE412E367.jpeg

9EC26F11-29D3-4EDB-9ADB-9BBD3EDF7812.jpeg
Outstanding work.
Yep. Recovered bullet porn is always interesting :D

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Re: Terminal Performance

Post by mchughcb » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:40 am

When Bob finishes on 308. There is the 300 win.
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