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Bergers For Victorians (Aus.not BC)

Post by secondtry » Thu Nov 19, 2015 12:31 am

Given that the Aussie importer sold out of their recently arrived 308 210 VLD hunting Bergers between listing them at 2.00am and 7.00 am this morning, I'm thinking that I might need to get some from Reloading International. I don't think the importer was able to get any 338s.

Question to DH338 and sav338 (and anyone else reasonably close by):
Would you be interested in getting some Bergers from RI as part of a group buy ? Pay me in advance (I'm easy to find :lol: ) I pay, organise paperwork, permits, customs etc, and take delivery. You organise collection from me.

We get the same shipping price for a carton up to certain weight. All details are on their website. Have a look and let me know either way, so I can get started alone if necessary. If you are in, please also PM me an email addy so I can onforward stuff as necessary.

I will be getting some 210 308s and some 6.5 123SST Hornadys. Room for a few more boxes of whatever in the carton and within the weight limit



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Post by secondtry » Thu Nov 19, 2015 12:42 am

Oops - just remembered - I'll need to keep this under A$1000 including shipping costs. May or not be a limiter, but I'll work that out when I hear back from anyone interested.
Also forgot to add that broken boxes etc, are the orderer's problem, not mine. I don't expect any issues, but this stuff is weighty and chucking it around sometimes splits things.

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Post by deerhunter338mag » Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:05 am

Seddo had a crack at it about a year ago and he said he wouldn't do it again. Should have a chat to him about it Secondtry.
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Post by secondtry » Thu Nov 19, 2015 4:28 pm

deerhunter338mag wrote:Seddo had a crack at it about a year ago and he said he wouldn't do it again. Should have a chat to him about it Secondtry.
Thanks. I got a carton about two years ago and had no real trouble, although it was a fair bit of mucking around. I'm guessing Seddo's order may have been a bit bigger than mine.

Since I posted the offer it looks like I may be unexpectedly getting some locally, so no need for me to import.

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Post by sav338 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:08 am

Hi Secondtry ,
thanks for the offer but not eager in paying up front. Sorry !
I got the same reply from Seddo as DH and they were substantially dearer.
Does your local supplier have any 338 in 250 gr elite hunters ?
I would be eternally grateful.
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Post by secondtry » Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:00 pm

sav338 wrote:Hi Secondtry ,
thanks for the offer but not eager in paying up front. Sorry !
I got the same reply from Seddo as DH and they were substantially dearer.
Does your local supplier have any 338 in 250 gr elite hunters ?
I would be eternally grateful.
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The only Aus source that I am aware of is BRT in Queensland. I think they are the Australian importer, and they have not been able to get any 338s from Berger. Reloading International is waiting on 338.
I thought I was going to have no choice but to import, but BRT had some more 210s in their shipment, so I'm fine.

FWIW I've found RI good to deal with and although the process is fiddly, it was trouble free for me. Seddo knows his stuff, so dunno what happened there. Perhaps a bigger order than mine makes it a bit harder. They may have been dearer for me, I don't remember. It was no deal breaker either way.

Anything you import personally will need to be paid for up front, so you might be cutting yourself off from some future goodies :)

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Post by sav338 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:31 pm

You can also buy Bergers from Q store in qld but they get even smaller shipments than Stuart
BRT .
I got a email back from Brt expressing their frustrations with Berger and supply
. Annie will go back to Berger next week and see if we get any 338s and anything else ready now. We will even take a short shipment to get 338 and 6mm's here.

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Post by deerhunter338mag » Fri Nov 20, 2015 6:37 pm

Yeah right. :whistle: if they started taking it seriously they should get themselves a good constant supply of the 338 projectiles as there got to be one of there best sellers as they sell out over night. As long as I can remember Bergers suppliers in Australia have be dog manure in bring them in. It was vic arms at 1st then they just got sick of it and stop bringing them in. What really is disappointing is no other bullet company has match them for there killing ability at long rang. Cutting edge make an extremely accurate projectile for long range I would say just if not better for accuracy, but with little lead in the pills they just don't explode as good. Serria smk' are ok but still lack the killing potential. It's extremely dissapointing I must say. :evil: :evil: fingers crossed it want be to much longer and the 1000 boxes they order will be sold in 1 hr :whistle: :whistle:
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Post by secondtry » Fri Nov 20, 2015 7:59 pm

Methinks you blokes are being a tad harsh :)

RI have 338s on order. Sinclairs/Brownells don't even list 338s currently.

If they're hard to find in the USA, we Aussies have Buckley's. :(

In my experience, Stuart and Annie at BRT run a good business and provide good service. If they could get 'em they would.
Pricewise on the 210/308s (which was my interest), there is only a poofteenth difference in price between the major USA suppliers.
The A$ price from BRT, when you work the exchange rate, GST, and remember shipping, looks pretty reasonable to me.

Seems to me that for 338 and 6mm Bergers, we aussies have only three choices:

1/ Wait for Berger to supply BRTs back order.
2/ Import some yourself.
3/ Go without. :(

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Post by 7x57 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:30 pm

secondtry wrote:Methinks you blokes are being a tad harsh :)

RI have 338s on order. Sinclairs/Brownells don't even list 338s currently.

If they're hard to find in the USA, we Aussies have Buckley's. :(

In my experience, Stuart and Annie at BRT run a good business and provide good service. If they could get 'em they would.
Pricewise on the 210/308s (which was my interest), there is only a poofteenth difference in price between the major USA suppliers.
The A$ price from BRT, when you work the exchange rate, GST, and remember shipping, looks pretty reasonable to me.

Seems to me that for 338 and 6mm Bergers, we aussies have only three choices:

1/ Wait for Berger to supply BRTs back order.
2/ Import some yourself.
3/ Go without. :(
Have agree with secondtry regarding BRT. Stuart and Annie are two of the most genuine people I have dealt with. Their service is excellent and they share our frustration at the lack of availability of product coming from the U.S. I spoke with Stuart recently and like many Oz importers an order goes in but that is not necessarily what arrives :( Their business is suffering badly and unfortunately they are considering shutting up shop and concentrating on March scopes and their training business. I for one hope that this doesn't happen.

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Post by deerhunter338mag » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:58 pm

I've never had any issues with them buying other things but my only issues is the story changes all the time regarding BERGER projectiles. The LR community here is small and most guys know each other. I read emails from different guys and a lot of things do change with there story. I know Bergers are hard to get as they always have been. Yes it really would be a sad if they shut up shop as its a small and very handy business. As I've said to a few guys no point worrying about the Bergers just use a different pill and get better at shooting long range.
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Post by 7x57 » Sat Nov 21, 2015 2:08 am

deerhunter338mag wrote:I've never had any issues with them buying other things but my only issues is the story changes all the time regarding BERGER projectiles. The LR community here is small and most guys know each other. I read emails from different guys and a lot of things do change with there story. I know Bergers are hard to get as they always have been. Yes it really would be a sad if they shut up shop as its a small and very handy business. As I've said to a few guys no point worrying about the Bergers just use a different pill and get better at shooting long range.
Yep, you make a very good point and its a decision that I made some time back and one of the reasons I started playing around with GS Customs etc. The Bergers are a bonus when they turn up but can't rely on them even for the 6.5 so it's impossible to consider them as your go to load. I've moved on and use different projies.

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Post by deerhunter338mag » Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:07 am

Using the SMK 350gr for the 375 cheytac mate has worked out how to modify them to kill better. We have found with the 338's using the SMK 250gr you just need to slow them down a touch and they work ok not as good as the 250gr EH at longer distances but will do the job. Been chatting to a mate about the cutting edge line of projectiles and for paper punchers there as good if not as accurate as the Bergers. We found the 250gr MTH are not really the best on big game like sambar but there laser line is a lot better. Just need to get better at grouping at long distances to be on the money that's all.

http://site.cuttingedgebullets.com/pdf/LAZERPDF.pdf

http://site.cuttingedgebullets.com/pdf/MTHPDF.pdf

http://www.meplat.com.au
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Post by sav338 » Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:25 am

Where is this going ?
Who has bagged or being harsh on BRT ?
I like all others have put my name down for the projectiles. I have never had problems with the couple I. Have bought from them before and will again.
Below is an email from Berger so what hope have we got.

Steve,

Thank you for getting with us here at Berger Bullets. We are looking to run this bullet at the end of October and at that time will start accommodating as many backorders as we can based on the date of the order. With international shipments there are a number of factors that can cause shipments to be delayed on top of the already extended wait time. Shipping internationally requires for us to first accumulate a large enough order to warrant the shipment. If that order is accumulated and a dealer either has not placed an order for a particular bullet or they have not come up on our backorder list, then it may be a number of months before we send out another shipment.

We want to offer our apperception of your patience for the extended wait times over the last few years. I can promise you that we are working hard to get to a point where we can produce bullets and fill orders immediately. Until that day is upon us, the unfortunate reality is that these wait times will continue to occur. In the meantime keep an eye out for this product towards the end of November when we hope to be shipping orders. This date is tentative and I cannot guarantee we will fill every order, but our hope is to accommodate as many as we can.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

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Post by Corjack » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:06 am

I am just now starting to see signs that Berger is catching up with production. So perhaps things will get better for you guys down there.

Another issue, is a lot of business people the world over, place an order for a product, wait months for it to come in. Sell out in short order, then place another order. Seems to me they need to put a bit more thought into anticipation. Maybe place an order every three weeks, regardless of when orders come in. Then if they get into overstocked status, they can cancel a few back orders, or just adjust the time between orders.
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