Open carry finally allowed in Australia

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FED-UP residents are ‘arming’ themselves with ear-blasting airhorns in an effort to scare off home invaders and other crooks.

The Narre Warren North dad who started the quirky initiative, Steven Archibald, has already distributed dozens of airhorns and bright torches to his neighbours.

The former army reservist — who negotiated a discount deal with the online horn supplier — has the backing of the City of Casey and has already presented to the council’s community safety committee.

One councillor praised the initiative as a “non-vigilante approach”, saying it could be rolled out throughout the region.

Mr Archibald, who specialised in heavy weapons and reconissance work in the army, said the $19 airhorns were a good option for people who froze and were unable to scream when confronted by an offender.

He said some people had been talking about arming themselves with weapons but said there was a risk an attacker could grab a weapon or used it against the victim.

“It has been hectic over the last 12 months with the levels of crime,” Mr Archibald said.

“Some homes have panic alarms but they are not always in the ideal spot.

“I have ordered about 50 of these airhorns and I am about to do another order.”

Over the past few months Mr Archibald has doorknocked, organised community meetings — attended by almost 60 people — with the aim of helping neighbours develop a management plan in case they are threatened at home or see a crime.

Mr Archibald, who works from home managing superannuation funds, said the neighbourhood was very supportive of police but realised they couldn’t be everywhere, especially in a big municipality like Casey.

“If you do not know your neighbour that well you might say ‘oh it’s too late to call them (if there was a break in)’,” he said.

“Out the front of my house there were people affected by drugs at 5am screaming and yelling and I responded with the horn and a neighbour backed that up.

“I am trying to create something that anyone can pick up and run with.”

Neighbour Clive Ellis, who has lived in the area for more than 60 years, said he felt safer since getting an airhorn.

He said many people did not respond when they heard a car or home alarm because they often activated for no reason.

“If there was a lightning strike or the power was out you could grope around in the cupboard and find it (an airhorn) quick-smart,” Mr Ellis said.

Mr Archiband presented to the council’s Community Safety Advisory group last month, along with Narre Warren police.

Four Oaks ward councillor Rosalie Crestani said there had been 10 home invasions in one street in Narre Warren that she knew about and the airhorns were a good non-vigilante approach.

“Perhaps we can roll this out Casey-wide,” she said.

Police spokesman Leading Senior Constable Adam West said police did not reccomend anyone confront offenders.

“Victoria Police urges people to ring triple zero (000) immediately if they are in danger or witness a crime.” he said. “Our message is clear – your safety and the safety of your family is our number one priority.”

“Victoria Police does not recommend people confront offenders as this places you at further risk of harm. Rather, Victoria Police advises people to focus on prevention.”

DID YOU KNOW

■ An airhorn produces a sound that can be as loud as 129 decibels, louder than a siren and almost as loud as a jackhammer

■ Long or repeated exposure to sounds above 85 decibels can cause hearing damage and sounds above 120dB are enough to cause pain

■ Airhorns are often used in marine safety to alert rescuers when a boat is in trouble

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I did like the bit about the police not recommending anyone confront an offender but should call the emergency number instead. I think if someone is in your house or on your property, particularly late at night - then THEY are already confronting YOU. Even if the police were inclined to respond to someone pilfering my barn in the middle of the night it would take them an hour to get to my house - but if I go out to confront them, I'm in the wrong, I should have waited for the coppers...... And god forbid I confront them with a weapon - jail time for you johnny. They of course could "confront me" with whatever violence they fancied. Make sense to anyone?

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Have to be open carry, 'cos that's going to print! :lol:


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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: too funny.
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The only thing LE is going to do is take a report after the episode. We had one of ours killed in the line in 2010; he had multiple units inbound to his location and were on scene less than 2 minutes after his call. He was deceased and the turd was in the wind. Point is, even a well trained officer with the batman belt and a gun (we don't carry air horns) and help on the way can have issues with bad people. I feel for you folks in these locales where you are so limited in terms of what your response is allowed to be! So much of this just empowers the mouthbreathin knuckledraggers to be more bold in their endeavors to harm good people....damn this gets me torqued! Going to have to add some Irish to this first cup of coffee... :angry-cussingblack:
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SPEEDY wrote:I swear the whole climate change debacle is being caused by the planet listing out of orbit by the growing number of morons leaning to the left
I think I'm going to need to quote you on this... :clap: :lol: :lol:
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Kath and Kim country is narre warren.

Best summarized by kath saying to kim over coffee.

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I think the same thing for the snakes would work for home invaders in Australia. Always carry a shovel, and be a good citizen.
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I swear the whole climate change debacle is being caused by the planet listing out of orbit by the growing number of morons leaning to the left, there's just no balance anymore.
Thats got to be the funniest and best explanation of the con that I have heard. :lol: :lol: :lol: :clap: :clap:
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I really feel for my brothers in Australia. You are in trouble.
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I recently joined the Institute for Public Affairs which is an independent think tank after the CEO sent me to a climate change discussion. One of the big things they are pushing is the right to free speech. They want a repeal in the law it is referred to as 18C. People are using this law to shut down the right for people to express themselves which is not freedom.

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Yep, the greens actually tried to make it illegal to speak out about climate change, it's not science it's actually a bloody religious belief.
Science you can debate and argue about but with climate change it's no discussion allowed.

That's not science, science has to be tested and challenged before it's excepted, not excepted before the proof is in.
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mchughcb wrote:I recently joined the Institute for Public Affairs which is an independent think tank after the CEO sent me to a climate change discussion. One of the big things they are pushing is the right to free speech. They want a repeal in the law it is referred to as 18C. People are using this law to shut down the right for people to express themselves which is not freedom.
The left here is also pushing to do away with freedom of speech. They have been so brainwashed that they would follow Jim Jones if they were told to. Scary how ignorant and naïve society as a whole has become.

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SPEEDY wrote:Yep, the greens actually tried to make it illegal to speak out about climate change, it's not science it's actually a bloody religious belief.
Science you can debate and argue about but with climate change it's no discussion allowed.

That's not science, science has to be tested and challenged before it's excepted, not excepted before the proof is in.
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thechamp wrote:
mchughcb wrote:I recently joined the Institute for Public Affairs which is an independent think tank after the CEO sent me to a climate change discussion. One of the big things they are pushing is the right to free speech. They want a repeal in the law it is referred to as 18C. People are using this law to shut down the right for people to express themselves which is not freedom.
The left here is also pushing to do away with freedom of speech. They have been so brainwashed that they would follow Jim Jones if they were told to. Scary how ignorant and naïve society as a whole has become.

I find it sadly amusing that the left are the bastions of equal rights and free speech, unless you have a different view to them in which case your an ignorant rightwing extremist who shouldn't have any rights at all.
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